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NDTV has published a spec comparison chart of the Ford Ecosport and its competitors: Honda WR-V vs Maruti Suzuki Vitara Brezza vs Ford EcoSport vs Fiat Avventura vs Hyundai i20 Active vs Toyota Etios Cross. Maybe they'll come out with a video comparison soon, but for now we have the chart on their site: Spec Comparison - NDTV CarAndBike
 

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Looks like the EcoSport has the highest displacement engine out of the lot and the most torque when it comes to the petrol engine. For anyone who wants diesel, the Ecosport looks like it lags behind just the slightest bit in torque and there's no automatic transmission option.
 

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The ponies and torque numbers are good to know, but what I wish they would have included is at what rpm the max output is reached. You can have all the numbers in the world, but won't mean much if you can't use it on your daily drives or if the drive dynamics are horrible.

There's also not a lot of options for those who want an automatic transmission and a petrol engine as only the EcoSport is offering it. :D
 

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Not only at what rpm is the max output reached but what the torque curve looks like. That's the real important part that'll dictate how it'll feel.
 

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We'll just have to wait until someone publishes a dyno chart for the EcoSport. I'm hoping to see a relatively linear line for torque delivery with a substantial amount on tap at the lower end.
 

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Maybe the torque curve will have a steep incline at lower revs before leveling our or increasing at a slower rate.
 

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I read that a lot of the Honda WR-V sales in India were for the diesel variant. Looking at the specs, the Ecosport diesel has a tad more torque so it could take sales away from honda in more diesel friendly markets.
 

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Honda and Toyota will be the two brands to beat as they're the two more well known automakers in the world and that could instill brand loyalty in buyers even if the Ecosport edges them out in terms of performance. There are so many variables when it comes to sales that I just can't tell which one will be the best, but on paper the Ecosport is ahead of the pack.
 

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With the Honda HR-V selling as quickly as they are unloaded at Dealerships, Ford will have to offer similar Trim and Standard Equipment even in their "L" Series. The Honda HR-V LX has the same Alloy Wheels an similar Interior as the EX. The only features that one doesn't`t get is a slightly less potent Audio System, Keyless Ignition with Push Button Start and Heated Exterior Mirrors and Seats. Also Fog Lights that are never hardly used. Seriously, in Florida does one really need Heated Seats an Exterior Rear View Mirrors? If you prefer a Keyed Ignition and Door Locks an can live without Push Button Ignition an don`t care about a Power Moonroof, why upgrade to even the LE Model? If the "L" series EcoSport comes in with plenty of necessary Standard Options and priced right, it just might compete with the Honda HR-V. The (el-cheapo) Jeep Renegade, an Chevy Trax won`t even be competitive. Next week when the Unscheduled Order Bank opens with the info on Trim Levels, Standard Equipment and available options, if priced right, I will leave a Deposit an place my Order.
 

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I read that a lot of the Honda WR-V sales in India were for the diesel variant. Looking at the specs, the Ecosport diesel has a tad more torque so it could take sales away from honda in more diesel friendly markets.
Power numbers isn't really such a big thing in this segment as no one is really expecting any of these to produce significant numbers. It's more so for things like reliability, cost, maintenance prices, space, etc.
 

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Also keep in mind different parts of the world get different configurations so in this case we would likely get what the HR-V/Fit/Civic has. Its the easiest way to make a north american WR-V possible with checking off all the boxes; finances, specs, etc.
 

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Pretty much and Honda is known to really spread they're power train configurations across their lineup. A 1.5T or something could very well makes it's way in there. Ample torque and hp, efficient, really can't go wrong with it.
 

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Its a no brainer. I you don`t need Fog Lamps, a Power Sun Roof and Power Seats, if you can live with "Black" Paint Exterior Door Handles, The (S) Trim Model is where the Value is at!
 

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Its a no brainer. I you don`t need Fog Lamps, a Power Sun Roof and Power Seats, if you can live with "Black" Paint Exterior Door Handles, The (S) Trim Model is where the Value is at!
Best of all the price something like would go for gets you to forget about how basic it is. Looking back at what was basic 5-8 years ago compared to today, its easy to see how good we have it. A lot of people with 20+ year old cars are fascinated by what todays cars are like
 

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It's easy to see how good we have it but a lot of people have gotten so accustomed to these creature comforts that you'll feel like it's greatly lacking if something simple like power seats aren't there.
 

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It's easy to see how good we have it but a lot of people have gotten so accustomed to these creature comforts that you'll feel like it's greatly lacking if something simple like power seats aren't there.
It all comes down to price and once its priced well while lacking simple things like powered seats then there won't be complaints. Even Mustangs from a few years ago had manual cloth seats and no one complained about that.
 

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Like I mentioned before, unless one needs or desires Fog Lights, Power Driver Seat, Leather Interior, Larger LED Display Screen, or other gadgets, the Base "S" Series has most of the desired features along with Standard Alloy Wheels. Much like the Base LX Honda HR-V, you get most of what you want an save Thousands of dollars at the same time.
 

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But want sometimes trumps what one actually needs and that's why there are higher trims. The EcoSport is one of those cars where I feel like I want every feature even though I realistically don't need most of them.
 

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But want sometimes trumps what one actually needs and that's why there are higher trims. The EcoSport is one of those cars where I feel like I want every feature even though I realistically don't need most of them.
lucky for you rental companies and even Ford dealers are good with getting base models on their lots so you can always see these in person for yourself before deciding if its enough or if you want more.
 
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